Ryan
I need a new computer for college, I'd prefer windows. I want something with the new 4th gen intel chips but idk if anything will be released before I start school... I see that Acer has their Aspire s7 updated coming out soon, idk when that's coming out. Samsung also has their ativ but idk when they are releasing their new ones either. Are there any other 4th gen higher end ultrabooks being released right now. Or do you suggest any? I know the newest Macs have Haswell chips in them which is really nice. I like the Toshiba Kirabook but it does have a 3rd gen chip and i get microsoft office for free which is a really nice added thing to have, but it is really expensive. Like all computers, I like how you get alot of features with the kirabook i just don't think they'll update for a while and i need the computer before I go to school!! So give me any suggestions, thanks. -Ryan
Answer
Both these HP has the forth gen chips
This HP can be customized to. Upgrade the Graphics to NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M 2048MB of dedicated video memory
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-ENVY/E4T17AV?HP-ENVY-15t-j000-Quad-Edition-Notebook-PC i7-4700MQ 8GB DDR3 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive Starting at $800
Here is a touch screen that is customizable. Upgrade the graphics chip to NVIDIA GT 740M Graphics 2GB
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-ENVY/E4T18AV;pgid=c7twGfjc0ptSRpIq7ZUcoGXQ0000GmMAshAG;sid=DQEoI7rS1zlIKesazxJ0t2PdOR3tdo7OyFRm_1x3B9qliABBz7dh1Qdm?HP-ENVY-TouchSmart-15t-j000-Quad-Edition-Notebook-PC 4th generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700MQ Processor 8GB DDR3 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Brand buying advise
You get what you pay for. Systems with high end parts with low prices are to be viewed with suspicion. They have to cut corners somewhere to get the price down. What cost you less today is going to cost you more tomorrow.
Apple makes a good quality laptop. The problem comes when it requires service or minor upgrades. It is near impossible to do anything with them. They even glue the battery and hard drive down so you can not change it. They solder the ram to the logic board so you can not increase it. They lock up most of the software so your stuck with what they approve.
Lenovo has serious stand behind their product problems. They bought IBM PC division and proceeded to drive the quality of the system into the ground. Their customer service is well below par. They even makes Dell customer service look good. Lenovo will not allow people to read instruction on how to access the BIOS menu or to get info on their puters on their web site unless you connect to them thru Facebook. They do this so they can spy on their users. The last and final thing to remember about them is they are a Chinese Government own company. It is up to you if you want to trust them.
Toshiba, Panasonic, Sony should be avoided because of their heavy modification of Windows and the drivers. If you remove some of the bloat they install, you can cripple the system.
Acer, Gateway, and eMachines should be avoided period. Low end system that are driving the race to the bottom.
Dell once made a good system and fell from grace. They are now struggling to regain their place in the market. Customer service is one of many problems with this company.
Alienware are glorified Dells and are more name then product. Priced extremely high for what you get. They do perform but you can get the same for less by looking around, just not packaged to be eye candy to the gamers.
Samsung has a history of using cheap parts in critical areas. Capacitors has been one area Samsung has a known history of going cheap, causing units to fail early. For that reason I would avoid them.
ASUS and HP do not modify Windows as bad as the other manufacturers. They have excellent build quality. They might add a lot of bloat but they also makes it easy to get rid of it.
Ultrabooks are the higher end of Wintel laptops but they have some of the same concerns as Apple. They make it next to impossible to change any hardware in them. Service of them will have to be done by the manufacturers. With most of them, you can not change your own battery or hard drive. They are designed to catch your eye but they are not any more special then other laptops except for the fact that they are slim or thin. Your paying for it being thin and slim. For the money your going to spend on it you can buy a much better laptop with more power.
Hybrids are the worse of the worse. The flip or detachable touch screens are just a disaster waiting to happen.
Never buy an All In One. They are far worst then laptops of any kind to service and they have a higher failure rate.
Choose wisely.
:)
Both these HP has the forth gen chips
This HP can be customized to. Upgrade the Graphics to NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M 2048MB of dedicated video memory
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-ENVY/E4T17AV?HP-ENVY-15t-j000-Quad-Edition-Notebook-PC i7-4700MQ 8GB DDR3 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive Starting at $800
Here is a touch screen that is customizable. Upgrade the graphics chip to NVIDIA GT 740M Graphics 2GB
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-ENVY/E4T18AV;pgid=c7twGfjc0ptSRpIq7ZUcoGXQ0000GmMAshAG;sid=DQEoI7rS1zlIKesazxJ0t2PdOR3tdo7OyFRm_1x3B9qliABBz7dh1Qdm?HP-ENVY-TouchSmart-15t-j000-Quad-Edition-Notebook-PC 4th generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700MQ Processor 8GB DDR3 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Brand buying advise
You get what you pay for. Systems with high end parts with low prices are to be viewed with suspicion. They have to cut corners somewhere to get the price down. What cost you less today is going to cost you more tomorrow.
Apple makes a good quality laptop. The problem comes when it requires service or minor upgrades. It is near impossible to do anything with them. They even glue the battery and hard drive down so you can not change it. They solder the ram to the logic board so you can not increase it. They lock up most of the software so your stuck with what they approve.
Lenovo has serious stand behind their product problems. They bought IBM PC division and proceeded to drive the quality of the system into the ground. Their customer service is well below par. They even makes Dell customer service look good. Lenovo will not allow people to read instruction on how to access the BIOS menu or to get info on their puters on their web site unless you connect to them thru Facebook. They do this so they can spy on their users. The last and final thing to remember about them is they are a Chinese Government own company. It is up to you if you want to trust them.
Toshiba, Panasonic, Sony should be avoided because of their heavy modification of Windows and the drivers. If you remove some of the bloat they install, you can cripple the system.
Acer, Gateway, and eMachines should be avoided period. Low end system that are driving the race to the bottom.
Dell once made a good system and fell from grace. They are now struggling to regain their place in the market. Customer service is one of many problems with this company.
Alienware are glorified Dells and are more name then product. Priced extremely high for what you get. They do perform but you can get the same for less by looking around, just not packaged to be eye candy to the gamers.
Samsung has a history of using cheap parts in critical areas. Capacitors has been one area Samsung has a known history of going cheap, causing units to fail early. For that reason I would avoid them.
ASUS and HP do not modify Windows as bad as the other manufacturers. They have excellent build quality. They might add a lot of bloat but they also makes it easy to get rid of it.
Ultrabooks are the higher end of Wintel laptops but they have some of the same concerns as Apple. They make it next to impossible to change any hardware in them. Service of them will have to be done by the manufacturers. With most of them, you can not change your own battery or hard drive. They are designed to catch your eye but they are not any more special then other laptops except for the fact that they are slim or thin. Your paying for it being thin and slim. For the money your going to spend on it you can buy a much better laptop with more power.
Hybrids are the worse of the worse. The flip or detachable touch screens are just a disaster waiting to happen.
Never buy an All In One. They are far worst then laptops of any kind to service and they have a higher failure rate.
Choose wisely.
:)
Any recommendations for a novice buying her first computer? Are there any great books or other info sources ?
lo-j-lo
I want to buy the right stuff and become and expert on the basics of computer ownership and use. I was reading, "How to Buy a Computer for the Complete Idiot," but I still seems way complicated. Some writers/teachers have a real gift in organizing and presenting information in an interesting way. Does anyone have any suggestions in this area? Thanx.
Answer
You basicly want a companion book to go along with your new computer so you can learn how to operate it properly.
If you are planning on buying a computer with Microsoft Vista, you can try the "dummy's" or "idiot's guide" books or one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Absolute-Beginners-Guide-Microsoft-Windows/dp/0789735768/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213906746&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-VISUALLY-Windows-Vista/dp/0470045736/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213906746&sr=1-8
If you are planning to get a Mac:
http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-VISUALLY-Leopard-Tech/dp/0470101679/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213907350&sr=1-1
And lastly, for general computer knowledge, it is geared a little more towards Windows Vista than Mac but is general information and in it's 4th printed edition:
http://www.amazon.com/Absolute-Beginners-Guide-Computer-Basics/dp/078973673X/ref=pd_sim_b_2
I'm sure you can also find these books at other book retailers like Barnes & Noble or Borders, so you can browse before you buy.
Just be careful when you finally go shopping for a computer, bring someone who knows(really knows) about computers. Many salespeople are not experts on the products but they are experts on which computers have the highest profit. Also, most computers in the stores are several months old, technology-wise, but for a beginner, it doesn't make a huge difference. When you are ready for your second computer, in a few years, you'll be more savvy.
Good luck with your new PC!
You basicly want a companion book to go along with your new computer so you can learn how to operate it properly.
If you are planning on buying a computer with Microsoft Vista, you can try the "dummy's" or "idiot's guide" books or one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Absolute-Beginners-Guide-Microsoft-Windows/dp/0789735768/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213906746&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-VISUALLY-Windows-Vista/dp/0470045736/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213906746&sr=1-8
If you are planning to get a Mac:
http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-VISUALLY-Leopard-Tech/dp/0470101679/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213907350&sr=1-1
And lastly, for general computer knowledge, it is geared a little more towards Windows Vista than Mac but is general information and in it's 4th printed edition:
http://www.amazon.com/Absolute-Beginners-Guide-Computer-Basics/dp/078973673X/ref=pd_sim_b_2
I'm sure you can also find these books at other book retailers like Barnes & Noble or Borders, so you can browse before you buy.
Just be careful when you finally go shopping for a computer, bring someone who knows(really knows) about computers. Many salespeople are not experts on the products but they are experts on which computers have the highest profit. Also, most computers in the stores are several months old, technology-wise, but for a beginner, it doesn't make a huge difference. When you are ready for your second computer, in a few years, you'll be more savvy.
Good luck with your new PC!
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